we were always told that as witnesses we were "sincere bible students".... carefully examining the scriptures.. yes, we were indeed taught much about the content of the bible, it's history, prophecies etc..... but it was always from one perspective....that of the society.
when the society changed its interpretations, we had to do the same..... so were we really "bible students", or "society students"?.
just a thought.....
JWs are a 'community' of religious folks who try to live life according to the latest biblical understanding as interpreted by these NY men in-charge (GB).
Imperfect system, just like the imperfect humans who designed it and run it. However, very, very, very nice individuals in an idealistic way of life.
'Hating' of JWs as a whole not justified by the doings of a crummy few.
DY
as we know, there were at least 2 ways to enter the un ngo bldg : 'ground pass' and 'library pass'.
and the 'ground pass' matters was dealt by many posts in old times.
basically, the policy of 'library pass' had not been chaged before 9.11 as we read.. however, some pro-jws have been insisting that it was not the un ngo bldg.
Among other reasons, the WTBTS needed to become an NGO with the UN in order to bring their message and get established abroad with a sort of 'protection'; the end definitely justified the means in this case.
It can be rationalized with the biblical passage which states that Christians can use 'the world' in order to advance the preaching of the word everywhere, or to use "unjust riches" for the work of the Lord, being "cunning as snakes but innocent like doves", or some such quotes found in the NT.
This goes on with many a Company/Corporation/Religious Org/etc. originating in the USA and wanting to gain acceptance abroad. Common practice, really.
Well now... I sure woke up with the JW personality prevalent today. Call it whatever, it's call "survival". Get over it already.
DY
i am just curious who on this board is in the same situation has i am?
a spouse that is fully brain doogled in and you are awake to ttatt.. without going into serious detail and no names are given.
i would like to possible talk with one of you all, it's just so helpful to communicate with someone in the same situation as me.. i am located in the southwest united states..
Hi,
Hubby, parents, immediate relatives, extended relatives, the vast majority are all hardcore JWs; it's a quite difficult to maneuver once fully awake as I am. However, it's all I know, sooooo..... a bit difficult my position.
DY
i see the letters r&f often, but i dont know what that stands for..can someone tell me?
tia
We are the 'rank and file', the 'commoners' of this ever evolving religious movement. Although many in my immediate and extended family are 'royalty', which makes me a not so common 'commoner'.
DY
uk scientist helps christian cult to promote creationism.
the jehovah’s witness bagged themselves a big one when they got professor raj kalaria, above, to speak about his belief in creationism in a new video posted online by the cult.. keralia is currently a deputy director of the newcastle centre for brain ageing and vitality, newcastle, and a professor of neuropathology at newcastle university, uk.. when ex-jehovah’s witness lloyd evans, who runs jwsurvey, discovered that an april 2016 jw broadcasting episode featured keralia, he decided to:.
reach out to newcastle university to find out whether it endorses the academic’s stance on evolution, and found myself in a rather frustrating email exchange with helen rae, the media relations manager at the university’s faculty of medical sciences .. after much to-ing and fro-ing, an official statement was finally forthcoming ….
Ooh, are you sad? Are you all crying? Awwww....
DY
i have no interest whatsoever in stirring up controversy.. in fact, i find clashes of opinion to be debilitatingly negative.. so, i'd simply like to request that we narrow this discussion to evidence.. please watch this video which is tantalizingly titled :.
"there's no such thing as mental illness".. consider this data and listen to the presentation of cause vs. effects and give me your analysis and any evidence for conclusions you may draw.
we all have anecdotal tendencies, but i should remind you, anecdotal testimony isn't evidence, only opinion.________________________________________.
In my heavily indoctrinated from birth JW opinion...
Mental illness is with the poor individual that is born a certain gender, but his/her ill mind is telling them they belong as a member of the opposite gender. Bruce Jenner is mentally ill.
A type of mental illness is with the female/male individual that feels sexual/love attraction with a person of the same sex.
Mental illness is with a tormented person that continuously tattoos/pierces/deforms themselves in some way, and of course, always with some sort of excuse/justification.
Mental illness is with the person that feels sad for no reason at all; all is well in their life, in a moment, and this subject is really sad.
Mental illness is with all involved in the Gothic movement. Sick looking for sure.
Varying degrees of mental illness is with the KKK and similar racist/divisive movements.
Mental illness exists in so many forms that is quite hard to find a well balanced individual.
Some poets have said that there's a bit of 'crazy' in all of us.
DY
i was contacted by my ex sister-in-law yesterday.
she asked me if i wanted to spend some time with my niece, while she went to her sister's baby shower.
it turns out my niece can't go because she's about to be disfellowshipped at the ripe old age of 14. .
This is the end of the vast majority of those who are baptized young. Now all will turn their back thus causing major psychological damage.
As much as the WTBTS tries to decipher biblical facts, they sure have not understood that perhaps the reason why JC got baptized at such a mature age was to make absolutely sure he knew what he was getting into willfully.
Then he proceeded to instruct in the Bible to follow on his footsteps. Does the WTBTS follow his example in this regard?! Of course not, they only care about their membership numbers.
My heart aches for all our young disfellowshipped.
Shame on the WTBTS and all parents who allow this to happen.😔
DY
i asked him what happened.
he said "him and his wife lived a full theocratic life for jehovah.
doing everything the organization and the traveling brothers told them to do, like work part time, regular pioneer, serve where the need is great.
What I love, by the example of the Spanish congs where I attend, is that young people are really concentrated on their education and you can palpate that they do not give a hoot about the crap shown from the platform. No more victims of the WTBTS failed 'end times' prophecies.
It's AWESOME!!!
DY
yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.
on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.
there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.
Good morning,
It reads like a nice civil exchange of words and ideas. Decent.
Well done.
DY
off course you need to think back to when you were a jw to answer this question honestly and properly.but hypothetically if you had the spirituality and knowledge and was approached to be appointed as a gb member would you have taken on the position?and if you did what changes would you recommend ?.
j.
The equivalent of a CEO at a major US company. Heck yeah!!! Only a fool wouldn't!
It is not personal, only business. Those cats live the dream, luxury, all expenses paid, riches galore... THE VERY BEST OF IT ALL!!!
DY
